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Sony WF-1000XM5 Leaked, Announcement soon? (Update 8)

Sony WF-1000XM5 WF1000XM5 YY2963 leaked

I know a lot of people are waiting for the new WF-1000XM5, and your wait might soon be over according to a comment on the blog. An anonymous user posted that the announcement for the new WF-1000XM5 is June 5th to 9th, meaning this upcoming week.

The comment in question:

While I cannot find any retail listings yet, I suspect that major leakers will leak them soon enough if the announcement is this week. If the anonymous user wishes to send some photos and specs, I would appreciate that, otherwise we wait. And no, I have not received anything from Sony, pretty sure I am blacklisted with the content I post here.

The one photo I have is from Amazon and I had to enlarge it to see anything, this is why the Sony logo is all wonky (apologies). Below is a table where I found the photo (far right).

Sony WF-1000XM5 WF1000XM5 YY2963 leaked

The specifications are rather general and nothing specific, pretty much identical to the current model. The battery life seems to be the same, if to be believed, this would be unfortunate. The table does provide the weight of the earbuds and case, which 5.9g per earbud and 39g for the case. This makes the WF-1000XM5 case 2g lighter, and each earbud 1.4g lighter compared to the WF-1000X4. Apart from that, the table confirms multipoint support. (weight calculation corrected, thanks anonymous email).

Ah thanks to Ed in the comments, it looks like the shiny plastic is here to stay for the final design. The touch sensor area does look matte though.

The new WF-1000XM5 look to be using the same tips as the WF-1000XM4 in the photo, so if we use that as a size reference, we can compare the size.

Sony WF-1000XM5 WF1000XM5 YY2963 leaked

We can see there is a pretty big size difference. The fit and comfort should be greatly improved. My own WF-1000XM4 fit okay, but do bother me after an extended period of time. My WF-C700N, which are much smaller, fit a lot better and there is no discomfort after long periods of use.

That is it for now, if the announcement is this week, expect more leaks, which I will add to this post. So what do people think of the design? Will you be upgrading right away or would rather wait?

Of course for those that do not like the new design and want the buy the current model, it is on sale right now.

Update 8 - June 24th

According to Roland Quandt, the price of the WF-1000XM5 will be 319.99 Euros. I assume this is in Germany. This is very steep price and a jump of 39 Euros compared to the original price back in June 2021.

My guess is we could see a $299 USD price, with Canadian pricing perhaps at $449 CAD. If this turns out to be correct, then yikes. No way would any pair of earbuds be worth 300 USD or 450 CAD, especially if the battery life remains the same. Maybe the larger driver will have better sound and the ANC performance improved, but no way are these 2 things worth that amount of money.

So grab a cheap pair of WF-1000XM4 while you still can. Btw, for those in Canada, I am being told Costco is having a sale right now, $197.99 CAD in the warehouse. This is a huge discount, and a great price.

Update 7 - June 21st

So quick update, the WF-1000XM5 appeared on the Argos.co.uk support site, and will no doubt disappear as soon as I post this. This is an encouraging sign, we are closer to a release. If anyone from Sony wishes to send me a review unit, I am more than happy to test it and compare it to my WF-1000XM4. And the page has been removed, not a surprise.

Sony WF-1000XM5 WF1000XM5 YY2963 leaked

How likely is this? No idea. I do not have any new materials or information. Either retailers are keeping this well under wraps because no other retail listings have leaked. Rather odd that we have no teaser. Both the LinkBuds and LinkBuds S got teasers. Same for the WH-1000XM5. So is the teaser coming tomorrow? or no? Drop your thoughts below. Update, I will not be posting anymore comments from the  anonymous commentator anymore.

Sony WF-1000XM5 WF1000XM5 YY2963 leaked

Update 6 - June 18th

Supposedly the release is now this week (19th to 23rd). It was apparently postponed to due various factors, whatever that means. I find it odd that no retailers have accidentally leaked it yet, as in previous years. For the time being some import data again, from May, but it only appeared on the site I check a few days back.

Sony WF-1000XM5 WF1000XM5 YY2963 leaked

Both black and silver models, maybe for testing and certification? Hopefully we will get an announcement this week. For those who will be picking one up, will buy right away or wait?

Update 5 - June 14th

Winfuture is reporting that the upcoming WF-1000XM5 will feature a 8.4mm driver, which Sony calls Dynamix Driver X. They also report that the WF-1000XM5 will have 2 proprietary processors, one for sure will be a Mediatek Bluetooth SoC, be it the current V1, or some updated V2 perhaps. Will be interesting what this second one will be.

Likewise they confirm the 3 mics which we saw in my original leak, from the translated article, it seems that all 3 mics might work for noise cancellation now, but not sure if this is the correct translation. It is unknown if the third mic on the WF-1000XM4 was also used for NC or just voice. As for the bone conduction sensors and Precise Voice Pickup technology, both of these are already present on the WF-1000XM4, so it makes sense they are also on the WF-1000XM5. The new earbuds have the same IPX4 certification as the old one model.

The case battery is apparently 500mAh, which is 20mAh less than the WF-1000XM4. With the full battery life identical to the old model, it would suggest the new WF-1000XM5 is more battery efficient. 

We should be getting close to a reveal, if there will be a teaser, it should be coming in the next week.

Update 4 - June 11th

While we wait for the WF-1000XM5 to be announced, here is an overview of what specifications we know so far:

  • WF-1000XM5 will be lighter and more compact than the WF-1000XM4
    • earbud weight will be 5.9g versus 7.3g, so 1.4g lighter
    • case will be 2 grams lighter (39g vs 41g)
  • Touch controls remain
  • Wireless Qi charging supported
  • Up to 24 hours of battery life (identical to WF-1000XM4)
  • Quick recharge - 3min = 1 Hr playback, previously 5min = 1 Hr, so faster recharging
  • Black and Platinum Silver colours
  • Multipoint connection support
  • Wearing detection
  • Hi-res supported

From my earlier leak, we can deduce the following:

  • There are 3 MEMS mics, 2 for noise cancellation and 1 for voice
  • Most of the components are now part of a System in Package, like the LinkBuds S.
  • Charging case will have pairing button
  • Charging specifications are now 5 V = 230mAh, versus 5 V = 140mA

Unknown details are the following:

  • Price, will it increase
  • Will the case support PD USB?
  • Codec support 
    • Will LE Audio be supported or after firmware update?
  • Will a Full recharge speed be increased?
  • Driver size
  • Battery capacity

So that is it for the moment, we now wait patiently. Btw I have updated my first post, at this moment I believe we only have one driver, with second contacts now most likely going to the battery.

Update 3 - June 9th:

So another update, another anonymous comment, seems like Sony will have press release rather than teaser, but it is Friday the 9th, and nothing so far. The WF-1000XM5 (YY2963) also appeared on the Wireless power consortium website, as reported by Mysmartprice.com. The certification does show the top of the charging case.

Sony WF-1000XM5 WF1000XM5 YY2963 leaked

The certification reveals that the firmware version of the WF-1000XM5 is identical to the one in the WF-1000XM4 certification, 1.2.4 (I should mention this is the Qi version, not firmware of the earbuds). The WF-1000XM4 was registered on June 21st, 2021, so about 2-3 weeks after its announcement. With the WF-1000XM5 yet to be announced, it has already shown up on the website, so either a first, or it will disappear and appear after release. Adding a screen grab in case it gets removed.

Sony WF-1000XM5 WF1000XM5 YY2963 leaked

The certification shows a maximum power of 2 watts, where as the WF-1000XM4 had 5 watts. The WF-1000XM4 uses a Renesas P9222-R chip which was able to provide up to 5W of power which lines up with the cert. The WF-1000XM5 may still use the same chip, but it could just be limited to 2 watts.

Update 2 - June 8th:

Well it is Thursday and still no update, but another anonymous comment says information will soon be out on Sony's Channels..

The anonymous user could always send some more information by email if they can, on the record, or off the record if they wish. Regardless, if the release is coming, perhaps we will see some kind of teaser or announcement for a live stream or event.

Update 1 - June 7th:

Thanks to winfuture.de and Roland Quandt, we have 2 new photos of the WF-1000XM5, with the silver model revealed finally revealed as well. We can now see the mesh up close, and it looks a bit different to the mesh on the LinkBuds S and WF-C700N.

The shinny plastic will take some getting used to for certain users, hopefully it will not be a fingerprint magnet. With these leaking, an announcement is coming, but is it still this week?

Sony WF-1000XM5 WF1000XM5 YY2963 leaked
Source: https://winfuture.de

Sony WF-1000XM5 WF1000XM5 YY2963 leaked
Source: https://winfuture.de

I was going to to post this earlier, but it slipped my mind. The support page for Sony's TVs has the WF-1000XM5 listed in the 2022 TV range. Funny enough, clicking the 2023 TV range list, shows no WF-1000XM5. Likewise the WF-C700N and WH-CH720N are also missing from the 2022 list, which is very odd, considering both new headsets are listed in the 2023 range. This could be a mistake and perhaps it should be in the 2023 list instead. Regardless, the leaks are slowly coming out and the Sony WF-1000XM5 should be announced soon. If Sony wishes to send me a review unit, by all means :D

Sony WF-1000XM5 WF1000XM5 YY2963 leaked

72 comments:

  1. I like the design & smaller size but I expected them not to be (partly) glossy. That looks a bit cheap. Same battery life is indeed disappointing.
    E_D___B_A_N_G_E_R

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    1. Ah yes, the shiny plastic does seem to remain, the touch sensor area looks matte though. Hopefully the battery life will improve a bit with LE Audio.

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  2. I think they look great, will be buying asap. I was beginning to think they weren't coming out any time soon and was considering buying something else, glad I checked here.

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  3. One thing that no one mentions that I really want on these, is the wide area tap like on the linkbuds. It's such an ingenious solution to finicky touch controls.

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  4. It all depends on the fit and the quality of the ANC

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  5. yay finally! i've been holding out on buying the xm4s waiting for these to drop

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  6. I have the Xm4s and if there's not a big difference in sound quality, I will not be upgrading.

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    1. Yes sound is the main focus here..

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    2. There is a significant difference in sound between wf1000xm3 and xm4, so...

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  7. Lost my xm4 several months ago, been waiting on the xm5. Will buy it asap.

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  8. Where did you find the Amazon "Compare Sony Earbuds" table? I cannot find it on Amazon.

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    1. it has been removed, it was in another product listing.

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  9. Link to the "anonymous user" who mentioned the announcement: https://thewalkmanblog.blogspot.com/2023/03/sony-wf-1000xm5-design-leaked.html

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  10. If they perform like the 4's going stoopid, I'll pass.

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  11. There will be information very soon on the Sony channels

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    1. Will this be a full press release or are we talking about a teaser for a live stream or event?

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    2. the former

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    3. Guess we wait, doesn't look like the announcement is this week.

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  12. Sony managed to damage the battery of XM4 with a crappy firmware update. I'm not buying anything from them ever again, and I urge you not to do so too.

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    1. I had to send my XM4 back due to a battery issue just two weeks ago with the latest firmware. Looking at the number of reports of battery issues and the speed at which Sony issues a refund/replacement there is clearly an issue with the XM4. Let's hope the fives have this fixed.

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  13. It took them too long to announce it. What I fear is that the sound quality and ANC performance aren't as good as the competitors', so they need more time to tune the software.

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    1. I wouldn't be surprised they delayed the announcement due to WWDC happening last week. Announcing or releasing anything around an Apple event is a sure way of getting buried in the news.

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    2. While plausible, the date of the conference has been known since late March, so Sony would have known not to launch the WF-1000XM5 last week.

      https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2023/03/apples-worldwide-developers-conference-returns-june-5/

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  14. Sony WF-1000XM5 is 100% better in all areas than its first-class predecessors.



    WF-1000XM5

    Significantly better sound

    Battery life even better

    ANC= Noise Canceling extremely better.

    Microphone voice quality during phone calls...much better quality.

    Tragekompfort holds in all ear sizes bombproof.



    The new WF-1000MX5 have much better quality in all areas, where everything from Sony is high quality. The WF-1000XM5 are in all areas 100% no deterioration.

    Even if the WF-1000XM5 are smaller, the sound is 100% not better but much better, there will be nothing missing from the sound but significant increases.

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  15. Sony WF-1000XM5 is 100% better in all areas than its first-class predecessors.



    WF-1000XM5

    Significantly better sound

    Battery life even better

    ANC= Noise Canceling extremely better.

    Microphone voice quality during phone calls...much better quality.

    Tragekompfort holds in all ear sizes bombproof.



    The new WF-1000MX5 have much better quality in all areas, where everything from Sony is high quality. The WF-1000XM5 are in all areas 100% no deterioration.

    Even if the WF-1000XM5 are smaller, the sound is 100% not better but much better, there will be nothing missing from the sound but significant increases.

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  16. 8.4mm driver is still smaller than apple's 11m driver

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    1. Yet even the XM4 drivers produce better sound than the airpods.

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  17. Driver size isn't a good indicator of performance, particularly with bass, a 6mm dynamic driver can outperform others that are over twice the size. Using multiple drivers or a hybrid configuration won't necessarily sound better than a single well tuned dynamics driver.

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  18. When will these be released? Hopefully don't have to wait another whole week.

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    1. announcement should be closer to the end of the month I was told.

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    2. Incorrect. It's happening next week. Was suppose to be 5th-9th but was postponed due to various factors.

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    3. If you know and have the press release, send it my way, of course it can be off the record.

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    4. Nope don't believe you, you were dead set on it being the 5-9th and nothing showed up. Now it's next week all of a sudden.

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    5. You don't need to believe, just see. Last minute changes occur sometimes in this industry whether you like it or not.

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    6. So if no announcement comes this week, are we to believe another postponement due to new various factors. Ya don't think so, fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice, shame on you.

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    7. Get ready folks. This Friday. Sony YouTube channels.

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    8. I agree with the comment below. These "insider news" are becoming so annoying. I'm not sure if this person (or multiple people) enjoys making us fools. I personally won't come back to this blog anymore now that it's becoming obvious that there is no link between reality and these comments.

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    9. So based on the above if those people are true there should be a video from Sony about them today correct

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    10. I don't believe it, something is off, a lot of leaks but no reveal, feels like a delay has happened, maybe component shortages. Google also delayed their new foldable device, so perhaps Sony is also having issues.

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  19. I'd love to buy these when they get released, my Galaxy Buds Plus are slowly giving out on me and I need great lightweight headphones with guaranteed 8 hours of battery life, so I'm eagerly awaiting the release.

    Thank you for all the updates!

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  20. I hope you're right about XM5 announcement coming up this week

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    1. no way, this person claiming to know when the release will be is BSing, its wednesday and still no announcement, dude is a a fake.

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  21. I hate xm4 because they are too low in max volume. I hope new ones will be louder. For some reason nobody compares this very important parameter. Quality is useless if can't get excited by music

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    1. I'm an older person and should have some hearing loss, I never raise the volume past 60% on the wf-xm4, any higher is uncomfortably loud, I usually have it at about 49-50%. I think volume varies with different phones or maybe some people have already damaged their hearing, I'm imagine it is very frustrating for people with hearing loss.

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    2. same, i mostly listen at just over halfway. i imagine if someones having to go all the way and still arent hearing much its either a defective unit or hearing loss. certain other headsets like the pixel buds pro dont go as high as the wf-xm4 in my experience and even they get comfortably loud for me

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  22. Have someone tried calling Sony support number from update 7?

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    1. anyone in the UK willing to call?

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    2. I did. They just said they have no information and to just check the Sony press release website, then disconnected.

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  23. Come on Sony, send this guy a test model!

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    1. I reckon they will send test models to all reviewers at once

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    2. pretty sure I am not part of that list lol

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    3. I am surprised they even let you buy any Sony products, at this point

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  24. This could be perfect if its battery can be replaced like the 4s, hopefully using the same cell since its now readily available. The only downside of the 4s is their weight and size which this remedies. I'll get these once my Air Pod Pros 1 batteries go kaput.

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  25. no way, don't believe it, no announcement tomorrow. If we see a teaser, I will be shocked This so called 'insider' posting these anonymous comments here is just trolling us.

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  26. Once again fake news, congrats ๐Ÿ‘

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  27. They look like great earbuds, gonna buy them for sure

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  28. maybe these fake reveal dates is sony trying to discredit your blog, so people think you are not a reliable source of leaks and information. a psyop of some sorts

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  29. At this price point, you're better off buying something else, Sony shooting themselves in the foot. Even apple's airpod pro 2s are a better deal even if they won't be as good.

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  30. xm4 is getting cheaper everywhere. The price is falling down in Czech republic for 2 months now and currently is 4599 CZK (212 USD), from around 5480 CZK (252 USD)

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  31. Am I the only one who thinks the price hike isn’t that bad? Airpod pros don’t fit in my ear so I’m willing to pay more for a better seal, anc and hopefully better audio. If we are talking overpriced headphones B&O would be up there.

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    1. I obviously haven't heard them so, unlike the author I can't assert that they aren't worth the price, it doesn't seem an unreasonable amount to me, I have IEMs that cost far more and I use those a lot less than my wf-xm4. I'll be buying them day one, I delayed buying the wf-xm4 love and wish if bought them earlier.

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  32. True for costco but 26 june https://e.dam-img.rfdcontent.com/cms/009/623/656/9623656_original.jpg Maybe i will have to think twice... ๐Ÿ˜”

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  33. The increased price is not the issue at hand; rather, it boils down to whether the ANC performance of the WF-1000XM5 can surpass that of Apple AirPods Pro 2 and Bose QuietComfort Earbuds II. Given that both these models were released last year, if Sony fails to outperform them, they're done for. However, if the WF-1000XM5 manages to outshine its competitors, then the increased increase becomes a non-issue.

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  34. Honestly, Sony really should announce a release date at this point, even if it's further ahead. I mean, they are just doing bad for themselves having this price out circulating on social media, while they haven't confirmed any official details about the earphones. They created no incentive for people to wait for the release.

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  35. With inflation across the board, you kind of expect. a price hike really don't you? However, unlike other competitors, I think Sony is the one to offer you something better than the previous version - they've always done this, so I expect big things with the sound quality and and with the xm5

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    1. This price hike is more than inflation. And of course if they ask for more, then they have to offer more than a regular update with slight improvements. Making adjustments to sound quality is something I expect as technology evolves. But I would like to see real next gen features, such as aptX Lossless. Changes like 5 mins charging gives 1 hour usage improved to 3 minutes is just not gonna cut it for me.

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    2. Completely understand what you're saying. I meant Sony always give you quality upgrades over the previous gen, in a much better fashion than other brands. I see the value in that and don't mind paying a little more. However, with the price bracket it will now undoubtedly sit in, I guess it's not wild to ask for more.

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    3. With it appearing on Argos and Amazon, surely we must be looking at a release fairly soon?? I have 300 burning a hole in my pocket after selling my headphones, I just want to get these out the way lol

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    4. Same sold my Xm4s and just waiting for these

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  36. ha! that insider has gone awfully quiet for some reason. I knew they were BS.

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